Too good to be true
Saturday, April 4th, 2009 11:43 pm
Here’s a service that had a lot of potential, but turned out to be too good to be true.
I was informed of this service in a comment (presumably by the owner) on one of my posts back in January. The hordit service is promoted as free, unlimited storage, for all of your files and bookmarks.
When I first looked at the site two months ago, there was no mention of any cost at all. However, when you look at the website today, you are greeted with a “FREE 90 DAY TRIAL” logo. So obviously there must be some cost. But what? The front page clearly states “it’s convenient, secure, and easy … plus, it’s free,” and if you look at the FAQ, for the question “How much does it cost?” the answer is “Nothing. Nada. Zilch.”
I signed up anyway.
Within a couple minutes I got my confirmation email. I activated my account and was in the process of uploading a couple photos when I received another email from hordit:
PLEASE NOTE: Effectively immediately we have switched to a subscription model. You have a free 90-day trial of all that Hordit has to offer after which you will need to subscribe.
Information will be sent to you as this your trial period comes to an end.
Welcome to Hordit.com – a place where you can store virtually anything! But did you know there is so much more to Hordit?
Familiarize yourself with Hordit’s features with our tutorial videos here:
http://www.hordit.com/tutorials
We have browser toolbars for IE and Firefox that make interacting with your information and your groups and friends so simple even grandma could figure it out. Log into your account and download the toolbars here:
http://www.hordit.com/tools
Stay informed about the site on our blog here:
http://blog.hordit.com
- Team Hordit
That’s what I suspected, but still no mention of what the cost is. Obviously, I am very leery of uploading all of my data to a “free” service that is going to turn around and charge me to get it back in 90 days. If I knew what the subscription cost was going to be, I could at least make an informed decision of how much time and effort I should put into uploading files during the trial. I basically made the decision right then and there that any cost was too much for me. I’d prefer to retain possession of my own files, and hard drives are cheap. I replied to the email basically saying “thanks, but no thanks,” and suggested that the “bait and switch” style of the registration process was a little bit too sneaky for me.
To their credit, I got another email within 20 minutes:
Not bait and switch. We’re in the process of updating the site
content/functionality.
The sub cost was messaged 6 weeks ago as $5/mo or $50/yr.
We’ve since ajdusted to $4/mo or $40/yr.
Matt
Wait. “We’re in the process of updating the site…” followed by “The sub cost was messaged 6 weeks ago.” If they were really interested in “updating the site”, it wouldn’t take them six weeks to do it. I suspect the reason they dropped from $5 to $4 is because people don’t generally like getting baited with a free service only to find out 90 days later that they’re going to get charged for it. And they’re going to keep having trouble getting subscribers if they don’t come clean and clearly state what the fees are up front. My reply to Matt pretty much sums it up:
Six weeks is plenty of time to get your site updated with the subscription cost, or at least to insert the details of the subscription in the canned email that goes out to new registrants. I appreciate that you were quick to respond with the details below as soon as I questioned it, but I imagine you’d lose a lot of people who wouldn’t bother to question it – just decide that it’s not worth their time.
If you believe you have a service that is worth $4/mo, then tell people up front what it’s going to cost. Don’t try to trick them into signing up, thinking it’s going to be free, then hit them with a subscription once they’ve spent hours and hours uploading their files. I’m sure many people would think $40/year is a bargain for the service you offer, but by hiding those details, you cast suspicion upon yourself and turn away potential customers.
Just some friendly advice, I hope that you can take it to heart. Good luck with your service.
Eric
If you’re interested in online file storage or backup solutions, I came across this list of free services. I suppose there’s no guarantee that any of them won’t hit you with a subscription cost after 90 days either. By the way, I do not endorse the use of any of the services on that list. Don’t come crying to me if you get burned. I would be curious to hear how people feel about these types of online storage services though. Personally, I prefer to back up my files to DVD (several copies for the critical stuff) and take my chances. I have a real hard time trusting someone else with my files.
UPDATE: By the way, I just got another reply from Matt:
It’s not an intentional act of deceit and – agree we need to get the
changes in place sooner. Long story.
Here’s a service that had a lot of potential, but turned out to be too good to be true.
I was informed of this service in a comment (presumably by the owner) on one of my posts back in January. The hordit service is promoted as free, unlimited storage, for all of your files and bookmarks.
When I first looked at the site two months ago, there was no mention of any cost at all. However, when you look at the website today, you are greeted with a “FREE 90 DAY TRIAL” logo. So obviously there must be some cost. But what? The front page clearly states “it’s convenient, secure, and easy … plus, it’s free,” and if you look at the FAQ, for the question “How much does it cost?” the answer is “Nothing. Nada. Zilch.”
I signed up anyway.
Within a couple minutes I got my confirmation email. I activated my account and was in the process of uploading a couple photos when I received another email from hordit:
PLEASE NOTE: Effectively immediately we have switched to a subscription model. You have a free 90-day trial of all that Hordit has to offer after which you will need to subscribe.
Information will be sent to you as this your trial period comes to an end.
Welcome to Hordit.com – a place where you can store virtually anything! But did you know there is so much more to Hordit?
Familiarize yourself with Hordit’s features with our tutorial videos here:
http://www.hordit.com/tutorials
We have browser toolbars for IE and Firefox that make interacting with your information and your groups and friends so simple even grandma could figure it out. Log into your account and download the toolbars here:
http://www.hordit.com/tools
Stay informed about the site on our blog here:
http://blog.hordit.com
- Team Hordit
That’s what I suspected, but still no mention of what the cost is. Obviously, I am very leery of uploading all of my data to a “free” service that is going to turn around and charge me to get it back in 90 days. If I knew what the subscription cost was going to be, I could at least make an informed decision of how much time and effort I should put into uploading files during the trial. I basically made the decision right then and there that any cost was too much for me. I’d prefer to retain possession of my own files, and hard drives are cheap. I replied to the email basically saying “thanks, but no thanks,” and suggested that the “bait and switch” style of the registration process was a little bit too sneaky for me.
To their credit, I got another email within 20 minutes:
Not bait and switch. We’re in the process of updating the site
content/functionality.The sub cost was messaged 6 weeks ago as $5/mo or $50/yr.
We’ve since ajdusted to $4/mo or $40/yr.
Matt
Wait. “We’re in the process of updating the site…” followed by “The sub cost was messaged 6 weeks ago.” If they were really interested in “updating the site”, it wouldn’t take them six weeks to do it. I suspect the reason they dropped from $5 to $4 is because people don’t generally like getting baited with a free service only to find out 90 days later that they’re going to get charged for it. And they’re going to keep having trouble getting subscribers if they don’t come clean and clearly state what the fees are up front. My reply to Matt pretty much sums it up:
Six weeks is plenty of time to get your site updated with the subscription cost, or at least to insert the details of the subscription in the canned email that goes out to new registrants. I appreciate that you were quick to respond with the details below as soon as I questioned it, but I imagine you’d lose a lot of people who wouldn’t bother to question it – just decide that it’s not worth their time.
If you believe you have a service that is worth $4/mo, then tell people up front what it’s going to cost. Don’t try to trick them into signing up, thinking it’s going to be free, then hit them with a subscription once they’ve spent hours and hours uploading their files. I’m sure many people would think $40/year is a bargain for the service you offer, but by hiding those details, you cast suspicion upon yourself and turn away potential customers.
Just some friendly advice, I hope that you can take it to heart. Good luck with your service.
Eric
If you’re interested in online file storage or backup solutions, I came across this list of free services. I suppose there’s no guarantee that any of them won’t hit you with a subscription cost after 90 days either. By the way, I do not endorse the use of any of the services on that list. Don’t come crying to me if you get burned. I would be curious to hear how people feel about these types of online storage services though. Personally, I prefer to back up my files to DVD (several copies for the critical stuff) and take my chances. I have a real hard time trusting someone else with my files.
UPDATE: By the way, I just got another reply from Matt:
It’s not an intentional act of deceit and – agree we need to get the
changes in place sooner. Long story.


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